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Scott in Baltimore July 25th 05 04:31 AM

Death Wobble (again)
 
It's time for some front end work. I'm tired of hitting bumps
and having to slow way down for the front end to stop bouncing.

Should I start with the steering dampener or sway bar links?

'97 SE with a whopping 69100 miles on it.
(Yes, it's been off road and has trail rash underneath!)

L.W.(ßill) Hughes III July 25th 05 04:36 AM

Take to a shop that may recognize the worn parts:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/...rch+this+group
God Bless America, ßill O|||||||O
http://www.billhughes.com/

Scott in Baltimore wrote:
>
> It's time for some front end work. I'm tired of hitting bumps
> and having to slow way down for the front end to stop bouncing.
>
> Should I start with the steering dampener or sway bar links?
>
> '97 SE with a whopping 69100 miles on it.
> (Yes, it's been off road and has trail rash underneath!)


IsellJeeps July 25th 05 03:04 PM

try tires 1st


"Scott in Baltimore" > wrote in message
...
> It's time for some front end work. I'm tired of hitting bumps
> and having to slow way down for the front end to stop bouncing.
>
> Should I start with the steering dampener or sway bar links?
>
> '97 SE with a whopping 69100 miles on it.
> (Yes, it's been off road and has trail rash underneath!)




Jerry Bransford July 25th 05 04:16 PM

Tire's often 'trigger' Death Wobble but something else MUST also be
loose enough to allow it to develop into full-blown death wobble. Loose
trackbar, worn control arm bushings, etc.

Jerry

IsellJeeps wrote:
> try tires 1st
>
>
> "Scott in Baltimore" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>It's time for some front end work. I'm tired of hitting bumps
>>and having to slow way down for the front end to stop bouncing.
>>
>>Should I start with the steering dampener or sway bar links?
>>
>>'97 SE with a whopping 69100 miles on it.
>>(Yes, it's been off road and has trail rash underneath!)

>
>
>


--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

IsellJeeps July 25th 05 04:25 PM

I have rplaced tires on numerous wranglers due to this and I havent had to
go back and do trackbars...stabilizers etc... 99% of the time people dont
rotate their tires correctly therefor they cup or get out of round..I buy
jeeps all the time where tires are shot and the steering wheel litterally
jumps out of my hand when I hit a bump while driving them.... goto 4 wheel
parts or tire wheel connection.. buy pro comp all terrains or mud kings and
whoaallla no more wobble





"Jerry Bransford" > wrote in message
news:6n7Fe.19627$Eo.10034@fed1read04...
> Tire's often 'trigger' Death Wobble but something else MUST also be
> loose enough to allow it to develop into full-blown death wobble. Loose
> trackbar, worn control arm bushings, etc.
>
> Jerry
>
> IsellJeeps wrote:
> > try tires 1st
> >
> >
> > "Scott in Baltimore" > wrote in

message
> > ...
> >
> >>It's time for some front end work. I'm tired of hitting bumps
> >>and having to slow way down for the front end to stop bouncing.
> >>
> >>Should I start with the steering dampener or sway bar links?
> >>
> >>'97 SE with a whopping 69100 miles on it.
> >>(Yes, it's been off road and has trail rash underneath!)

> >
> >
> >

>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/




Jerry Bransford July 25th 05 04:54 PM

Whatever... but I deal with this stuff all the time and a suspension
that does not have a worn or loose part will not allow DW to fully
develop just simply a bad tire. Just having a bad tire or tires should
NOT cause Death Wobble, sheesh... come on. Replacing tires might get
rid of enough of the problem so the Death Wobble goes away but the other
part of the equation still remains. Replacing the tires alone just
leave the other part of the problem there to come back and bite the
owner again if another minor tire problem crops up. You may SELL Jeeps
and replace tires but I actually resolve the entire problem... not just
replace tires.



IsellJeeps wrote:
> I have rplaced tires on numerous wranglers due to this and I havent had to
> go back and do trackbars...stabilizers etc... 99% of the time people dont
> rotate their tires correctly therefor they cup or get out of round..I buy
> jeeps all the time where tires are shot and the steering wheel litterally
> jumps out of my hand when I hit a bump while driving them.... goto 4 wheel
> parts or tire wheel connection.. buy pro comp all terrains or mud kings and
> whoaallla no more wobble
>
>
>
>
>
> "Jerry Bransford" > wrote in message
> news:6n7Fe.19627$Eo.10034@fed1read04...
>
>>Tire's often 'trigger' Death Wobble but something else MUST also be
>>loose enough to allow it to develop into full-blown death wobble. Loose
>>trackbar, worn control arm bushings, etc.
>>
>>Jerry
>>
>>IsellJeeps wrote:
>>
>>>try tires 1st
>>>
>>>
>>>"Scott in Baltimore" > wrote in

>
> message
>
...
>>>
>>>
>>>>It's time for some front end work. I'm tired of hitting bumps
>>>>and having to slow way down for the front end to stop bouncing.
>>>>
>>>>Should I start with the steering dampener or sway bar links?
>>>>
>>>>'97 SE with a whopping 69100 miles on it.
>>>>(Yes, it's been off road and has trail rash underneath!)
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>--
>>Jerry Bransford
>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

>
>
>


--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

IsellJeeps July 25th 05 06:22 PM

lol dont get upset goofy i know your the greatest mechanic alive but a
stabilizer wont get rid of the death wobble....lol



"Jerry Bransford" > wrote in message
news:8X7Fe.19630$Eo.19408@fed1read04...
> Whatever... but I deal with this stuff all the time and a suspension
> that does not have a worn or loose part will not allow DW to fully
> develop just simply a bad tire. Just having a bad tire or tires should
> NOT cause Death Wobble, sheesh... come on. Replacing tires might get
> rid of enough of the problem so the Death Wobble goes away but the other
> part of the equation still remains. Replacing the tires alone just
> leave the other part of the problem there to come back and bite the
> owner again if another minor tire problem crops up. You may SELL Jeeps
> and replace tires but I actually resolve the entire problem... not just
> replace tires.
>
>
>
> IsellJeeps wrote:
> > I have rplaced tires on numerous wranglers due to this and I havent had

to
> > go back and do trackbars...stabilizers etc... 99% of the time people

dont
> > rotate their tires correctly therefor they cup or get out of round..I

buy
> > jeeps all the time where tires are shot and the steering wheel

litterally
> > jumps out of my hand when I hit a bump while driving them.... goto 4

wheel
> > parts or tire wheel connection.. buy pro comp all terrains or mud kings

and
> > whoaallla no more wobble
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Jerry Bransford" > wrote in message
> > news:6n7Fe.19627$Eo.10034@fed1read04...
> >
> >>Tire's often 'trigger' Death Wobble but something else MUST also be
> >>loose enough to allow it to develop into full-blown death wobble. Loose
> >>trackbar, worn control arm bushings, etc.
> >>
> >>Jerry
> >>
> >>IsellJeeps wrote:
> >>
> >>>try tires 1st
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>"Scott in Baltimore" > wrote in

> >
> > message
> >
> ...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>It's time for some front end work. I'm tired of hitting bumps
> >>>>and having to slow way down for the front end to stop bouncing.
> >>>>
> >>>>Should I start with the steering dampener or sway bar links?
> >>>>
> >>>>'97 SE with a whopping 69100 miles on it.
> >>>>(Yes, it's been off road and has trail rash underneath!)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>--
> >>Jerry Bransford
> >>PP-ASEL N6TAY
> >>See the Geezer Jeep at
> >>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

> >
> >
> >

>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/




DiezMon July 25th 05 06:26 PM

I'm telling ya.. I had the SAME problem.

It was my tires. Check those first.

Tim


"Scott in Baltimore" > wrote in message
...
> It's time for some front end work. I'm tired of hitting bumps
> and having to slow way down for the front end to stop bouncing.
>
> Should I start with the steering dampener or sway bar links?
>
> '97 SE with a whopping 69100 miles on it.
> (Yes, it's been off road and has trail rash underneath!)




Jerry Bransford July 25th 05 06:36 PM

You can "lol" all you want and no one except you mentioned anything
about recommending replacing the steering stabilizer. Typical fawking
salesdroid who thinks he knows more than he does..

IsellJeeps wrote:
> lol dont get upset goofy i know your the greatest mechanic alive but a
> stabilizer wont get rid of the death wobble....lol
>
>
>
> "Jerry Bransford" > wrote in message
> news:8X7Fe.19630$Eo.19408@fed1read04...
>
>>Whatever... but I deal with this stuff all the time and a suspension
>>that does not have a worn or loose part will not allow DW to fully
>>develop just simply a bad tire. Just having a bad tire or tires should
>>NOT cause Death Wobble, sheesh... come on. Replacing tires might get
>>rid of enough of the problem so the Death Wobble goes away but the other
>>part of the equation still remains. Replacing the tires alone just
>>leave the other part of the problem there to come back and bite the
>>owner again if another minor tire problem crops up. You may SELL Jeeps
>>and replace tires but I actually resolve the entire problem... not just
>>replace tires.
>>
>>
>>
>>IsellJeeps wrote:
>>
>>>I have rplaced tires on numerous wranglers due to this and I havent had

>
> to
>
>>>go back and do trackbars...stabilizers etc... 99% of the time people

>
> dont
>
>>>rotate their tires correctly therefor they cup or get out of round..I

>
> buy
>
>>>jeeps all the time where tires are shot and the steering wheel

>
> litterally
>
>>>jumps out of my hand when I hit a bump while driving them.... goto 4

>
> wheel
>
>>>parts or tire wheel connection.. buy pro comp all terrains or mud kings

>
> and
>
>>>whoaallla no more wobble
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>"Jerry Bransford" > wrote in message
>>>news:6n7Fe.19627$Eo.10034@fed1read04...
>>>
>>>
>>>>Tire's often 'trigger' Death Wobble but something else MUST also be
>>>>loose enough to allow it to develop into full-blown death wobble. Loose
>>>>trackbar, worn control arm bushings, etc.
>>>>
>>>>Jerry
>>>>
>>>>IsellJeeps wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>try tires 1st
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>"Scott in Baltimore" > wrote in
>>>
>>>message
>>>
>>>
...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>It's time for some front end work. I'm tired of hitting bumps
>>>>>>and having to slow way down for the front end to stop bouncing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Should I start with the steering dampener or sway bar links?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>'97 SE with a whopping 69100 miles on it.
>>>>>>(Yes, it's been off road and has trail rash underneath!)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Jerry Bransford
>>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>>>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
>>>
>>>
>>>

>>--
>>Jerry Bransford
>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
>>See the Geezer Jeep at
>>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

>
>
>


--
Jerry Bransford
PP-ASEL N6TAY
See the Geezer Jeep at
http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

IsellJeeps July 25th 05 06:45 PM

typical owner... thank you.... your the salesman at 4 wheel parts I am the
OWNER... lol
ps it is the tires 99.9% jerry
www.houstonjeeps.com



"Jerry Bransford" > wrote in message
news:8q9Fe.19637$Eo.15257@fed1read04...
> You can "lol" all you want and no one except you mentioned anything
> about recommending replacing the steering stabilizer. Typical fawking
> salesdroid who thinks he knows more than he does..
>
> IsellJeeps wrote:
> > lol dont get upset goofy i know your the greatest mechanic alive but a
> > stabilizer wont get rid of the death wobble....lol
> >
> >
> >
> > "Jerry Bransford" > wrote in message
> > news:8X7Fe.19630$Eo.19408@fed1read04...
> >
> >>Whatever... but I deal with this stuff all the time and a suspension
> >>that does not have a worn or loose part will not allow DW to fully
> >>develop just simply a bad tire. Just having a bad tire or tires should
> >>NOT cause Death Wobble, sheesh... come on. Replacing tires might get
> >>rid of enough of the problem so the Death Wobble goes away but the other
> >>part of the equation still remains. Replacing the tires alone just
> >>leave the other part of the problem there to come back and bite the
> >>owner again if another minor tire problem crops up. You may SELL Jeeps
> >>and replace tires but I actually resolve the entire problem... not just
> >>replace tires.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>IsellJeeps wrote:
> >>
> >>>I have rplaced tires on numerous wranglers due to this and I havent had

> >
> > to
> >
> >>>go back and do trackbars...stabilizers etc... 99% of the time people

> >
> > dont
> >
> >>>rotate their tires correctly therefor they cup or get out of round..I

> >
> > buy
> >
> >>>jeeps all the time where tires are shot and the steering wheel

> >
> > litterally
> >
> >>>jumps out of my hand when I hit a bump while driving them.... goto 4

> >
> > wheel
> >
> >>>parts or tire wheel connection.. buy pro comp all terrains or mud kings

> >
> > and
> >
> >>>whoaallla no more wobble
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>"Jerry Bransford" > wrote in message
> >>>news:6n7Fe.19627$Eo.10034@fed1read04...
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Tire's often 'trigger' Death Wobble but something else MUST also be
> >>>>loose enough to allow it to develop into full-blown death wobble.

Loose
> >>>>trackbar, worn control arm bushings, etc.
> >>>>
> >>>>Jerry
> >>>>
> >>>>IsellJeeps wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>try tires 1st
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>"Scott in Baltimore" > wrote in
> >>>
> >>>message
> >>>
> >>>
> ...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>It's time for some front end work. I'm tired of hitting bumps
> >>>>>>and having to slow way down for the front end to stop bouncing.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Should I start with the steering dampener or sway bar links?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>'97 SE with a whopping 69100 miles on it.
> >>>>>>(Yes, it's been off road and has trail rash underneath!)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>--
> >>>>Jerry Bransford
> >>>>PP-ASEL N6TAY
> >>>>See the Geezer Jeep at
> >>>>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>--
> >>Jerry Bransford
> >>PP-ASEL N6TAY
> >>See the Geezer Jeep at
> >>http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/

> >
> >
> >

>
> --
> Jerry Bransford
> PP-ASEL N6TAY
> See the Geezer Jeep at
> http://members.cox.net/jerrypb/





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