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[email protected] August 15th 06 07:16 AM

Remote Starter not able to install??
 
I just bought a 2006 Jeep Grand Cheroke Ltd, and I ordered a remote
starter to be installed. The salesman said no problem, but called me
back a few days later to tell that it was impossible to install.

Anyone heard of something like this?

Dan G


craig34 August 15th 06 02:23 PM

Remote Starter not able to install??
 
If I remember correctly when we bought our 2003 grand caravan sport we were
told the same thing and it had to do with keys. I think we were told there
was a special chip in it and would cost $1oo to replace. You probably got
no valet keys with it.


Nirodac August 16th 06 04:02 AM

Remote Starter not able to install??
 
"craig34" <craig.cochrane@no spam.sympatico.ca> wrote in
lkaboutautos
..com:

> If I remember correctly when we bought our 2003 grand
> caravan sport we were told the same thing and it had to do
> with keys. I think we were told there was a special chip in
> it and would cost $1oo to replace. You probably got no
> valet keys with it.
>
>


My quess is that this isn't a factory remote stater.

Typically your ignition key has a chip in it, that will un-
imobilize (is that a real word, should it be mobilize??) your
car when it is near the ignition switch.
The on board computer will not start your car without the smart
key.

On factory systems, the computer is preprogrammed for remote
start (If you indeed have that option from the factory).

To get around the factory imobilizer, simply take a key with the
chip in it, and store it behind the dash, near the ignition.
You've now defeated your car immobilizer, and a standard key or
your remote starter, will now start the car. You can now cut as
many un-chipped keys as you and your local thief want.

Should of gotten the option from the factory.

Just my 2 cents


Ken Weitzel August 16th 06 04:25 AM

Remote Starter not able to install??
 
Nirodac wrote:
> "craig34" <craig.cochrane@no spam.sympatico.ca> wrote in
> lkaboutautos
> .com:
>
>> If I remember correctly when we bought our 2003 grand
>> caravan sport we were told the same thing and it had to do
>> with keys. I think we were told there was a special chip in
>> it and would cost $1oo to replace. You probably got no
>> valet keys with it.
>>
>>

>
> My quess is that this isn't a factory remote stater.
>
> Typically your ignition key has a chip in it, that will un-
> imobilize (is that a real word, should it be mobilize??) your
> car when it is near the ignition switch.
> The on board computer will not start your car without the smart
> key.
>
> On factory systems, the computer is preprogrammed for remote
> start (If you indeed have that option from the factory).
>
> To get around the factory imobilizer, simply take a key with the
> chip in it, and store it behind the dash, near the ignition.
> You've now defeated your car immobilizer, and a standard key or
> your remote starter, will now start the car. You can now cut as
> many un-chipped keys as you and your local thief want.
>
> Should of gotten the option from the factory.
>
> Just my 2 cents


Hi...

Just another 2 cents worth...

At least here (Manitoba, Canada) we get a worthwhile
discount on our insurance for having either an OEM
immobilizer, or an approved third party immobilizer
installed.

Should you be unlucky enough to have your car stolen,
and it's somehow discovered that you've defeated it
by hiding a chipped key nearby, then apparently your
insurance is null and void.

Take care.

Ken

Nirodac August 16th 06 06:13 AM

Remote Starter not able to install??
 
Ken Weitzel > wrote in
news:3fwEg.414380$IK3.224012@pd7tw1no:

> Nirodac wrote:
>> "craig34" <craig.cochrane@no spam.sympatico.ca> wrote in
>> lkaboutau
>> tos .com:
>>
>>> If I remember correctly when we bought our 2003 grand
>>> caravan sport we were told the same thing and it had to
>>> do with keys. I think we were told there was a special
>>> chip in it and would cost $1oo to replace. You probably
>>> got no valet keys with it.
>>>
>>>

>>
>> My quess is that this isn't a factory remote stater.
>>
>> Typically your ignition key has a chip in it, that will
>> un- imobilize (is that a real word, should it be
>> mobilize??) your car when it is near the ignition switch.
>> The on board computer will not start your car without the
>> smart key.
>>
>> On factory systems, the computer is preprogrammed for
>> remote start (If you indeed have that option from the
>> factory).
>>
>> To get around the factory imobilizer, simply take a key
>> with the chip in it, and store it behind the dash, near
>> the ignition. You've now defeated your car immobilizer,
>> and a standard key or your remote starter, will now start
>> the car. You can now cut as many un-chipped keys as you
>> and your local thief want.
>>
>> Should of gotten the option from the factory.
>>
>> Just my 2 cents

>
> Hi...
>
> Just another 2 cents worth...
>
> At least here (Manitoba, Canada) we get a worthwhile
> discount on our insurance for having either an OEM
> immobilizer, or an approved third party immobilizer
> installed.
>
> Should you be unlucky enough to have your car stolen,
> and it's somehow discovered that you've defeated it
> by hiding a chipped key nearby, then apparently your
> insurance is null and void.
>
> Take care.
>
> Ken
>

I'll see your 2 cents and raise you 2 more cents.

Yea here too (BC). Discount that is.

BUT, what if you defeat the factory immobilizer and install
your own (as part of the remote start) approved, after market
imobilizer.

So now thats 6 cents worth of advice.


philthy August 17th 06 12:13 AM

Remote Starter not able to install??
 
it can be done maybe not by dealer but can be done a directed
electronics u455 inface is needed with the basic remote start kit

wrote:

> I just bought a 2006 Jeep Grand Cheroke Ltd, and I ordered a remote
> starter to be installed. The salesman said no problem, but called me
> back a few days later to tell that it was impossible to install.
>
> Anyone heard of something like this?
>
> Dan G




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