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Rick March 29th 04 03:12 AM

Clown Loaches have Ich
 

"Paul" wrote in message
...
*sigh* I knew I should have stayed with cichlids!!

getting back to the office tank, the loaches have ich. I know how to treat
it, I've read all about it on this group, I just want to know, does having
tetras, gouramis or catfish complicate things at all?


no, you need to treat the whole tank anyways. Half dose of Quick Qure, days
1, 4 7, 10, with water change in between.

Rick



Victor Martinez March 29th 04 04:07 AM

Clown Loaches have Ich
 
Raise the temp as high as your other fish will allow and use medication
specifically formulated for scaless fish. Maracide is quite good. Be
sure to follow the instructions and medicate for at least a week.


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Paul March 29th 04 06:07 AM

Clown Loaches have Ich
 

Rick wrote in message ...

"Paul" wrote in message
...
*sigh* I knew I should have stayed with cichlids!!

getting back to the office tank, the loaches have ich. I know how to

treat
it, I've read all about it on this group, I just want to know, does

having
tetras, gouramis or catfish complicate things at all?


no, you need to treat the whole tank anyways. Half dose of Quick Qure, days
1, 4 7, 10, with water change in between.

Rick



the stuff I got has malacite and formulin in it.. this is bad for my bio
filtration right? I am going to have to undergo a complete cycle again?

surely the good of the medication is negated by the re-cycling process if
this is the case??

surely not?! surely!!!





Polarhound March 29th 04 10:38 AM

Clown Loaches have Ich
 
Paul wrote:
Rick wrote in message ...

"Paul" wrote in message
...

*sigh* I knew I should have stayed with cichlids!!

getting back to the office tank, the loaches have ich. I know how to


treat

it, I've read all about it on this group, I just want to know, does


having

tetras, gouramis or catfish complicate things at all?


no, you need to treat the whole tank anyways. Half dose of Quick Qure, days
1, 4 7, 10, with water change in between.

Rick




the stuff I got has malacite and formulin in it.. this is bad for my bio
filtration right? I am going to have to undergo a complete cycle again?

surely the good of the medication is negated by the re-cycling process if
this is the case??

surely not?! surely!!!


You can always grab some gravel from another established tank to reseed.

Victor Martinez March 29th 04 03:07 PM

Clown Loaches have Ich
 
Paul wrote:
the stuff I got has malacite and formulin in it.. this is bad for my bio
filtration right? I am going to have to undergo a complete cycle again?


Your biofilter will not be affected at all. However, formalin is not
very good for loaches and other scaleless fish.

--
Victor Martinez
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Rick March 29th 04 03:21 PM

Clown Loaches have Ich
 

"Paul" wrote in message
...

Rick wrote in message ...

"Paul" wrote in message
...
*sigh* I knew I should have stayed with cichlids!!

getting back to the office tank, the loaches have ich. I know how to

treat
it, I've read all about it on this group, I just want to know, does

having
tetras, gouramis or catfish complicate things at all?


no, you need to treat the whole tank anyways. Half dose of Quick Qure,

days
1, 4 7, 10, with water change in between.

Rick



the stuff I got has malacite and formulin in it.. this is bad for my bio
filtration right? I am going to have to undergo a complete cycle again?

surely the good of the medication is negated by the re-cycling process if
this is the case??

surely not?! surely!!!



Quick Cure is for use on Parasites and Non bacterial fungal infections and
will not disrupt your bio. I have used it with no problem several times. It
is perfectly safe for use with Clown Loaches and Tetras but at half dosage
or one drop per two gallons.

Rick

Rick



BigBadGourami March 30th 04 03:28 AM

Clown Loaches have Ich
 
I've actually had better success treating loaches with aquarisol. I would
turn the heater up as high as 90 degrees, clown loaches can thrive in quite
a bit of heat, and use two 1/2 doses of aquarisol per day until all the
spots are gone. Took about 5 days with my latest bout. I also add about 1
tablespoon per 5 gallons of rock salt. After all spots are gone treat at
1/2 strength every other day for a total of about 2 weeks. The only
concern is that you water treatment will neutralize the copper in the
aquarisol. As a result, I dechlorinate my water by aeration instead when
doing a waterchange during treatment. All 4 of my clown loaches survived
this latest bout as well as the pl#co that started it all.


"Paul" wrote in message
...

Rick wrote in message ...

"Paul" wrote in message
...
*sigh* I knew I should have stayed with cichlids!!

getting back to the office tank, the loaches have ich. I know how to

treat
it, I've read all about it on this group, I just want to know, does

having
tetras, gouramis or catfish complicate things at all?


no, you need to treat the whole tank anyways. Half dose of Quick Qure,

days
1, 4 7, 10, with water change in between.

Rick



the stuff I got has malacite and formulin in it.. this is bad for my bio
filtration right? I am going to have to undergo a complete cycle again?

surely the good of the medication is negated by the re-cycling process if
this is the case??

surely not?! surely!!!







NetMax March 30th 04 04:51 AM

Clown Loaches have Ich
 
Hmm, good point about de-chlor's detoxifying effect on copper. I used
Aquarisol today for a mild protozoan's infliction, but I think the tank
had not received Aqua-Plus for at least a week, so I might be ok.
Aquarisol, being copper based, might be a very good cheap choice for
loaches.

Today was an average day at work. Aquarisol for Costas, Quick Cure for
Ich, Neomycin for dropsy, Ammo-lock on a cycling tank and lots of
de-chlor. It's a good thing I don't believe in using too much chemicals
;~)

NetMax


"BigBadGourami" wrote in message
news:[email protected]_s02...
I've actually had better success treating loaches with aquarisol. I

would
turn the heater up as high as 90 degrees, clown loaches can thrive in

quite
a bit of heat, and use two 1/2 doses of aquarisol per day until all the
spots are gone. Took about 5 days with my latest bout. I also add

about 1
tablespoon per 5 gallons of rock salt. After all spots are gone treat

at
1/2 strength every other day for a total of about 2 weeks. The only
concern is that you water treatment will neutralize the copper in the
aquarisol. As a result, I dechlorinate my water by aeration instead

when
doing a waterchange during treatment. All 4 of my clown loaches

survived
this latest bout as well as the pl#co that started it all.


"Paul" wrote in message
...

Rick wrote in message ...

"Paul" wrote in message
...
*sigh* I knew I should have stayed with cichlids!!

getting back to the office tank, the loaches have ich. I know how

to
treat
it, I've read all about it on this group, I just want to know,

does
having
tetras, gouramis or catfish complicate things at all?


no, you need to treat the whole tank anyways. Half dose of Quick

Qure,
days
1, 4 7, 10, with water change in between.

Rick



the stuff I got has malacite and formulin in it.. this is bad for my

bio
filtration right? I am going to have to undergo a complete cycle

again?

surely the good of the medication is negated by the re-cycling

process if
this is the case??

surely not?! surely!!!









Paul March 30th 04 05:26 AM

Clown Loaches have Ich
 

NetMax wrote in message ...
Hmm, good point about de-chlor's detoxifying effect on copper. I used
Aquarisol today for a mild protozoan's infliction, but I think the tank
had not received Aqua-Plus for at least a week, so I might be ok.
Aquarisol, being copper based, might be a very good cheap choice for
loaches.

Today was an average day at work. Aquarisol for Costas, Quick Cure for
Ich, Neomycin for dropsy, Ammo-lock on a cycling tank and lots of
de-chlor. It's a good thing I don't believe in using too much chemicals
;~)

NetMax


"BigBadGourami" wrote in message
news:[email protected]_s02...
I've actually had better success treating loaches with aquarisol. I

would
turn the heater up as high as 90 degrees, clown loaches can thrive in

quite
a bit of heat, and use two 1/2 doses of aquarisol per day until all the
spots are gone. Took about 5 days with my latest bout. I also add

about 1
tablespoon per 5 gallons of rock salt. After all spots are gone treat

at
1/2 strength every other day for a total of about 2 weeks. The only
concern is that you water treatment will neutralize the copper in the
aquarisol. As a result, I dechlorinate my water by aeration instead

when
doing a waterchange during treatment. All 4 of my clown loaches

survived
this latest bout as well as the pl#co that started it all.


"Paul" wrote in message
...

Rick wrote in message ...

"Paul" wrote in message
...
*sigh* I knew I should have stayed with cichlids!!

getting back to the office tank, the loaches have ich. I know how

to
treat
it, I've read all about it on this group, I just want to know,

does
having
tetras, gouramis or catfish complicate things at all?


no, you need to treat the whole tank anyways. Half dose of Quick

Qure,
days
1, 4 7, 10, with water change in between.

Rick


the stuff I got has malacite and formulin in it.. this is bad for my

bio
filtration right? I am going to have to undergo a complete cycle

again?

surely the good of the medication is negated by the re-cycling

process if
this is the case??

surely not?! surely!!!


the product I am using is called Aqua master rapid white spot remedy, active
ingredients 37 mg/L Formaldehyde and 0.32 mg/L Malachite green. I have
treated at half dose initially, then upped the anti 5 hours later with about
1/8 dose, and then again this morning with another 1/5 dose. The reason for
the top up is because the loaches seemed to have worsened over night, but
today seem to be doing ok. they have stopped scratching now, but the white
spots are yet to receed. hopefully will be ok. I will 50% water change
tomorrow and then retreat with a 5/8 dose of med.

on a happier note, I stripped my red zebra last night, I thought she was
holding only 1 or two fry, I was mainly stripping her so she could eat
again, she'd been holding for nearly 4 weeks. turns out, to my suprise, 10
little orange fry swam out of her mouth!! I'm pleased as punch. last lot of
fry I stripped from my two Eureka red females died from the tank being only
99% cycled (traces of nitrite 0.5ppm), these guys are in a basket in the
main tank, everything ok so far, I need to go buy some brine shrimp eggs now
to feed.

p.s. this will appear in the cichlid group as well :-)




Tim Voet April 4th 04 12:20 AM

Clown Loaches have Ich
 
Victor Martinez wrote:
Raise the temp as high as your other fish will allow and use medication
specifically formulated for scaless fish. Maracide is quite good. Be
sure to follow the instructions and medicate for at least a week.


I have had good success with Sera CostaPur. Raising Temperatures to
86~90, and add 1 tablespoon of Aquarium Salt per 5 gallons. Safe to
treat all my fish, Clown Loaches, tetras, some stripped snails, and my
gold nugget pleco. No fatalities.

Tim


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