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Masospaghetti July 11th 06 01:44 AM

Equipment needed to self-service R134a air conditioner
 
Hey all -

I'm anticipating having to open up my air conditioning system on my '85
Corolla because there is a leak and I don't want to have to keep taking
this thing into the shop to have it serviced. I already planned on
getting an electric vacuum pump and a manifold gauge set. What else
would I need to empty the refrigerant and oil, flush, vacuum, and refill?

I am using R134a, the car has been retrofitted with fittings and o-rings.

THanks
James

Don[_1_] July 11th 06 04:19 AM

Equipment needed to self-service R134a air conditioner
 
On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 19:44:27 -0500, Masospaghetti >
wrote:

>Hey all -
>
>I'm anticipating having to open up my air conditioning system on my '85
>Corolla because there is a leak


Have you found the leak?

> and I don't want to have to keep taking
>this thing into the shop to have it serviced. I already planned on
>getting an electric vacuum pump and a manifold gauge set. What else
>would I need to empty the refrigerant


I don't know of a cost effective way to do that at home, short of
illegaly dumping the refrigerant into the atmosphere. Probably best
to see if a shop will reclaim and use your refrigerant for free. If
the system is now empty it sounds like your list will get you by.
You might want to get some UV sensitive dye and a blacklight.

Don
www.donsautomotive.com



> and oil, flush, vacuum, and refill?
>
>I am using R134a, the car has been retrofitted with fittings and o-rings.
>
>THanks
>James



sdlomi2[_1_] July 11th 06 04:26 PM

Equipment needed to self-service R134a air conditioner
 

"Masospaghetti" > wrote in message
...
> Hey all -
>
> I'm anticipating having to open up my air conditioning system on my '85
> Corolla because there is a leak and I don't want to have to keep taking
> this thing into the shop to have it serviced. I already planned on getting
> an electric vacuum pump and a manifold gauge set. What else would I need
> to empty the refrigerant and oil, flush, vacuum, and refill?
>
> I am using R134a, the car has been retrofitted with fittings and o-rings.
>
> THanks
> James

Find a refrigerator-repairman-friend & get a small compressor from an
old refrigerator: it makes a good vacuum pump for cheap! Used one for
years.......s



Masospaghetti July 11th 06 10:33 PM

Equipment needed to self-service R134a air conditioner
 
Don wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 19:44:27 -0500, Masospaghetti >
> wrote:
>
>> Hey all -
>>
>> I'm anticipating having to open up my air conditioning system on my '85
>> Corolla because there is a leak

>
> Have you found the leak?


Yes, I can see oil weeping out of a pipe fitting on the low pressure
line. It has a slight tint of UV dye.
>
>> and I don't want to have to keep taking
>> this thing into the shop to have it serviced. I already planned on
>> getting an electric vacuum pump and a manifold gauge set. What else
>> would I need to empty the refrigerant

>
> I don't know of a cost effective way to do that at home, short of
> illegaly dumping the refrigerant into the atmosphere. Probably best
> to see if a shop will reclaim and use your refrigerant for free. If
> the system is now empty it sounds like your list will get you by.


Will dumping my refrigerant into the atmosphere get enough out to safely
put a vacuum on it anyway? Won't there still be oil in the system?

And is it important to have the system flushed out?

> You might want to get some UV sensitive dye and a blacklight.
>
> Don
> www.donsautomotive.com
>
>

Thanks Don.
James

>
>> and oil, flush, vacuum, and refill?
>>
>> I am using R134a, the car has been retrofitted with fittings and o-rings.
>>
>> THanks
>> James

>


Masospaghetti July 11th 06 10:34 PM

Equipment needed to self-service R134a air conditioner
 
sdlomi2 wrote:
> "Masospaghetti" > wrote in message
> ...
>> Hey all -
>>
>> I'm anticipating having to open up my air conditioning system on my '85
>> Corolla because there is a leak and I don't want to have to keep taking
>> this thing into the shop to have it serviced. I already planned on getting
>> an electric vacuum pump and a manifold gauge set. What else would I need
>> to empty the refrigerant and oil, flush, vacuum, and refill?
>>
>> I am using R134a, the car has been retrofitted with fittings and o-rings.
>>
>> THanks
>> James

> Find a refrigerator-repairman-friend & get a small compressor from an
> old refrigerator: it makes a good vacuum pump for cheap! Used one for
> years.......s
>
>


I actually have an old dehumidifier, thanks for the idea!

On another note, would an air compressor also work as a vacuum pump in
any way? (I have one for airbrushing)

sdlomi2[_1_] July 12th 06 12:35 AM

Equipment needed to self-service R134a air conditioner
 

> On another note, would an air compressor also work as a vacuum pump in
> any way? (I have one for airbrushing)


Actually, SnapOn sells an air-compressor-operated vacuum pump which is
quite fast but not cheap. Quite small & compact, tho'. s



Donald Lewis July 12th 06 01:10 AM

Equipment needed to self-service R134a air conditioner
 
On Tue, 11 Jul 2006 16:33:41 -0500, Masospaghetti >
wrote:

>Don wrote:
>> On Mon, 10 Jul 2006 19:44:27 -0500, Masospaghetti >
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all -
>>>
>>> I'm anticipating having to open up my air conditioning system on my '85
>>> Corolla because there is a leak

>>
>> Have you found the leak?

>
>Yes, I can see oil weeping out of a pipe fitting on the low pressure
>line. It has a slight tint of UV dye.
>>
>>> and I don't want to have to keep taking
>>> this thing into the shop to have it serviced. I already planned on
>>> getting an electric vacuum pump and a manifold gauge set. What else
>>> would I need to empty the refrigerant

>>
>> I don't know of a cost effective way to do that at home, short of
>> illegaly dumping the refrigerant into the atmosphere. Probably best
>> to see if a shop will reclaim and use your refrigerant for free. If
>> the system is now empty it sounds like your list will get you by.

>
>Will dumping my refrigerant into the atmosphere


I don't care to advise you on that, sorry.

Don
www.donsautomotive.com

> get enough out to safely
>put a vacuum on it anyway? Won't there still be oil in the system?
>
>And is it important to have the system flushed out?
>
>> You might want to get some UV sensitive dye and a blacklight.
>>
>> Don
>> www.donsautomotive.com
>>
>>

>Thanks Don.
>James
>
>>
>>> and oil, flush, vacuum, and refill?
>>>
>>> I am using R134a, the car has been retrofitted with fittings and o-rings.
>>>
>>> THanks
>>> James

>>



anumber1 July 12th 06 01:42 AM

Equipment needed to self-service R134a air conditioner
 
sdlomi2 wrote:
>>On another note, would an air compressor also work as a vacuum pump in
>>any way? (I have one for airbrushing)

>
>
> Actually, SnapOn sells an air-compressor-operated vacuum pump which is
> quite fast but not cheap. Quite small & compact, tho'. s
>
>

Harobor Freight sells one cheap...$10


http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=92475

Norm De Plume July 12th 06 01:47 AM

Equipment needed to self-service R134a air conditioner
 

sdlomi2 wrote:

> Actually, SnapOn sells an air-compressor-operated vacuum pump which is
> quite fast but not cheap.


Is there anything from SnapOn that is cheap?

This came up on Final Jeopardy, and nobody could answer it.


Scott Dorsey July 12th 06 01:57 AM

Equipment needed to self-service R134a air conditioner
 
anumber1 > wrote:
>>

>Harobor Freight sells one cheap...$10
>
>http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=92475


Will it crack in pieces and fall on the floor like my Harbor Freight
anvil did, or will it seize up internally and tear itself apart like
my friend's Harbor Freight grinder did?
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."


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