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Mitch_A October 27th 04 05:34 AM

Formula 1
 
Four top carmakers plan to split from Formula One and launch a rival
open-wheel Grand Prix racing series by 2008.

http://www.thatsracin.com/mld/thatsracin/10018382.htm



Woodie83 October 27th 04 11:59 AM

Mitch_A wrote:
> Four top carmakers plan to split from Formula One and launch a rival
> open-wheel Grand Prix racing series by 2008.


Because it worked out so well for Indycars.


Don McCorkle

Andi Cole October 27th 04 02:10 PM

Did Indycars have a Bernie Ecclestone to 'get away' from.

Andi.



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"Woodie83" > wrote in message
...
> Mitch_A wrote:
> > Four top carmakers plan to split from Formula One and launch a rival
> > open-wheel Grand Prix racing series by 2008.

>
> Because it worked out so well for Indycars.
>
>
> Don McCorkle




elrikk October 27th 04 03:13 PM


"Andi Cole" > wrote in message
...
> Did Indycars have a Bernie Ecclestone to 'get away' from.
>
> Andi.



Well, . . . Dave H, . . . are you going to tell him ? ;o)

Elrikk



Dave Henrie October 27th 04 06:41 PM

"Andi Cole" > wrote in news:417f9e48$0$80681
:

> Did Indycars have a Bernie Ecclestone to 'get away' from.
>
> Andi.


a breathern at least...


dave henrie

Dave Henrie October 27th 04 06:41 PM

"elrikk" > wrote in news:I1Ofd.119222$vi5.2164951
@weber.videotron.net:

>
> Well, . . . Dave H, . . . are you going to tell him ? ;o)
>
> Elrikk
>


yup!!! :>

Kendt Eklund October 27th 04 11:44 PM

Woodie83 > wrote in message >...
> Mitch_A wrote:
> > Four top carmakers plan to split from Formula One and launch a rival
> > open-wheel Grand Prix racing series by 2008.

>
> Because it worked out so well for Indycars.
>
>
> Don McCorkle


Except that nobody in Indycars has the weight that Ferrari does in F1.
I'd suspect that wherever Ferrari goes will be considered the real
Grand Prix championship. I bet the only reason Toyota hasn't signed
on is they hope they'll finally get a Formula 1 constructors title
after spending all that money ;).

Kendt

BTW - WTF is up with the upcoming WRC rules? I'd think those changes
are even more underhanded and arbitrary than anything done in F1
lately. The FIA certainly seems ready for a major shakeup.

Mitch_A October 27th 04 11:54 PM

What about the new FIA rules? Two tires all weekend, reduced displacement,
aero package changes. Pretty drastic eh? Are they doing this to increase
competition, reduce costs, safety or maybe all of the above?

Mitch


"Kendt Eklund" > wrote in message > BTW - WTF is up
with the upcoming WRC rules? I'd think those changes
> are even more underhanded and arbitrary than anything done in F1
> lately. The FIA certainly seems ready for a major shakeup.




Jan Verschueren October 28th 04 01:40 AM

Mitch_A wrote:
> What about the new FIA rules? Two tires all weekend, reduced
> displacement, aero package changes. Pretty drastic eh? Are they
> doing this to increase competition, reduce costs, safety or maybe all
> of the above?


They're not going the whole hog for next year AND the measures which are
being taken will only really benifit the big teams.

Ferrari/Williams/McLaren stand to save money to the tune of Minardi or
Jordan's annual budget, but the lesser teams will, in comparison, save less
and see their ability to gain competitiveness reduced even further.

Also there is no doubt the major players will find other motorsports willing
to create loopholes for them to test F1 technology there and thus gain as
much tracktime as they want.

That said, F1 teams are spending rediculous amounts of money on stuff that
doesn't improve the racing from a spectator point of view and which cannot
be adapted for road car use, thus bypassing F1's historical reason for being
(the current one being marketing and "image"). Something has got to be done
before the balloon deflates totally and this is an attempt at doing so.

Jan.
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Dave Henrie October 28th 04 02:17 AM

"Jan Verschueren" > wrote in
:

> That said, F1 teams are spending rediculous amounts of money on stuff
> that doesn't improve the racing from a spectator point of view and
> which cannot be adapted for road car use, thus bypassing F1's
> historical reason for being (the current one being marketing and
> "image"). Something has got to be done before the balloon deflates
> totally and this is an attempt at doing so.
>
> Jan.
>


Does not the Enzo come stuffed with F1 tech?

dave henrie


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